| No feasible measure of student
quality is ideal, but LSAT scores are the best, crude proxy we have available.
GPAs are hard to compare, without knowing about the undergraduate institutions
the students are coming from, and the courses of study they pursued. It
would be useful to know about students in the incoming class with advanced
degrees, or high quality work experience, but such data is not available,
nor is it easily comparable. Class size is a further factor complicating
comparisons, since the midpoint of 500 is not like the midpoint of 200,
though each provides pertinent information.
Below are two rankings of the top 40 schools in terms of student quality
as measured by LSAT. The first ranking looks only at the top quarter of
each class; the second ranks schools by the mid-point LSAT (that is, the
mid-point between the 25th and 75th—a figure more reliable than
the medians, which are not currently reported to the American Bar Association
[this will soon change]). Many academics favor 75th percentile rankings,
because they do not penalize schools for “alternative admissions”
procedures which may drag down the numerical credentials of the bottom
end of the class. Others point out that the number of “top students”
is more important than the “average” (“top students”
set the tone, it is said). On the other hand, some believe the average
matters more, and mid-point LSAT is the best proxy we have for the average.
In any case, both kinds of rankings appear below for readers to consider.
Remember: LSAT scores are very crude proxies for academic qualifications,
and are notoriously weak predictors of performance in law school. Listings
like those below leave out what, in my experience over thirteen years
of law teaching, are far more significant factors like the undergraduate
academic course of study of the students and the percentage of students
with advanced degrees in other fields. There is, alas, no public data
permitting comparisons on factors like these. What may be relevant in
these rankings are clusters of schools, not the ordinal rankings themselves.
In the ranking by 75th percentile LSAT, we have also listed the 75th
percentile GPA, though it was not factored into the ranking. But dramatic
differences in GPA between schools with comparable 75th percentile LSATs
are probably significant: see, e.g., Stanford versus Columbia and NYU;
or Berkeley versus Duke, Cornell, and UCLA.
Class size (rounded to the nearest 50) served as a tie breaker: the larger
school with the same LSAT credentials was ranked higher. For Harvard to
boast a 75th percentile LSAT of 175, just like Yale, requires Harvard
to recruit nearly three times as many students as Yale with those credentials.
That speaks both to Harvard’s attractiveness, and to the existence
at Harvard of an enormous pool of highly credentialed students, a fact,
needless to say, that prospective employers register. The Fordham student
body, with a 75th percentile LSAT of 167, is clearly a stronger student
body than Washington & Lee, with the same 75th percentile LSAT, but
one third as many students. If Texas were the size of Northwestern, the
75th percentile LSAT would be 170 or 171 and the mid-point LSAT 167 or
168. There are more complicated statistical techniques, to be sure, for
making comparisons between fractions of differently sized groupings, but
the tie-breaker device is, we thought, the easiest to understand and involves
the least intrusive manipulation of the data.
Fordham and Cardozo may be the main surprises in the rankings below,
but the huge pool of qualified students who want to be in New York City
obviously helps them recruit a student body with strong numerical credentials
(though one suspects the credentials top off not far from the 75th percentile,
given the regional competition).
(Note: all figures are for the day class, which, in most cases, makes
a difference--figures for the additional 150 or so part-time, evening
students at Georgetown are a good bit lower, for example.)
Ranking by 75th Percentile LSAT for 2005
Rank |
School |
75th
Percentile
LSAT |
75th
Percentile
GPA |
Class Size |
1 |
Harvard University |
175 |
3.94 |
550 |
2 |
Yale University |
175 |
3.96 |
200 |
3 |
Columbia University |
173 |
3.83 |
400 |
4 |
New York University |
172 |
3.85 |
400 |
5 |
Stanford University |
172 |
3.94 |
150 |
6 |
University of Virginia |
171 |
3.82 |
350 |
7 |
University of Pennsylvania |
171 |
3.81 |
250 |
8 |
University of Chicago |
171 |
3.78 |
200 |
9 |
Georgetown University |
170 |
3.80 |
450 |
10 |
Northwestern University |
170 |
3.78 |
200 |
11 |
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor |
169 |
3.77 |
350 |
12 |
Duke University |
169 |
3.83 |
200 |
13 |
University of California, Berkeley |
168 |
3.90 |
250 |
|
University of California, Los Angeles |
168 |
3.84 |
250 |
15 |
Cornell University |
168 |
3.76 |
200 |
16 |
University of Texas, Austin |
167 |
3.79 |
450 |
17 |
Fordham University |
167 |
3.78 |
300 |
18 |
Washington University, St. Louis |
167 |
3.70 |
250 |
19 |
University of Southern California |
167 |
3.76 |
200 |
20 |
University of Notre Dame |
167 |
3.77 |
150 |
21 |
Washington & Lee University |
167 |
3.77 |
100 |
22 |
George Washington University |
166 |
3.78 |
400 |
23 |
Cardozo Law School, Yeshiva University |
166 |
3.64 |
300 |
24 |
Boston College |
166 |
3.75 |
250 |
|
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities |
166 |
3.81 |
250 |
26 |
Vanderbilt University |
166 |
3.80 |
200 |
27 |
Brigham Young University |
166 |
3.86 |
150 |
|
University of Washington, Seattle |
166 |
3.84 |
150 |
29 |
George Mason University |
166 |
3.80 |
100 |
30 |
University of California, Hastings |
165 |
3.73 |
350 |
31 |
Boston University |
165 |
3.76 |
250 |
|
Emory University |
165 |
3.62 |
250 |
33 |
College of William & Mary |
165 |
3.82 |
200 |
|
University of Illinois |
165 |
3.64 |
200 |
35 |
Wake Forest University |
165 |
3.60 |
150 |
36 |
Loyola Law School, Los Angeles |
164 |
3.58 |
350 |
37 |
Brooklyn Law School |
164 |
3.57 |
300 |
38 |
University of North Carolina |
164 |
3.79 |
250 |
|
University of San Diego |
164 |
3.60 |
250 |
40 |
Indiana University, Bloomington |
164 |
3.74 |
200 |
|
Lewis & Clark College / Northwestern School of
Law |
164 |
3.51 |
200 |
|
Southern Methodist University |
164 |
3.84 |
200 |
|
University of California, Davis |
164 |
3.72 |
200 |
|
University of Georgia |
164 |
3.82 |
200 |
Runners-Up for the Top 40 |
|
University of Arizona |
164 |
3.69 |
150 |
|
University of Colorado, Boulder |
164 |
3.84 |
150 |
|
University of Connecticut |
164 |
3.58 |
150 |
|
Tulane University |
163 |
3.73 |
350 |
|
Temple University |
163 |
3.76 |
250 |
|
University of Iowa |
163 |
3.82 |
250 |
|
University of Wisconsin, Madison |
163 |
3.64 |
250 |
Rankings by Mid-Point LSAT for 2005
Rank |
School |
Mid-Point LSAT |
Class Size |
1 |
Harvard University |
172 |
550 |
2 |
Yale University |
171.5 |
200 |
3 |
Columbia University |
170 |
400 |
4 |
New York University |
169.5 |
400 |
5 |
University of Chicago |
169 |
200 |
6 |
Stanford University |
169 |
150 |
7 |
University of Virginia |
168.5 |
350 |
8 |
University of Pennsylvania |
168.5 |
250 |
9 |
Georgetown University |
168 |
450 |
10 |
Northwestern University |
168 |
200 |
11 |
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor |
166.5 |
350 |
12 |
Cornell University |
166 |
200 |
13 |
University of California, Los Angeles |
165.5 |
250 |
14 |
Duke University |
165.5 |
200 |
15 |
Fordham University |
165 |
350 |
16 |
University of Southern California |
165 |
200 |
|
Vanderbilt University |
165 |
200 |
18 |
University of Texas, Austin |
164.5 |
450 |
19 |
University of California, Berkeley |
164.5 |
250 |
|
Washington University, St. Louis |
164.5 |
250 |
21 |
University of Notre Dame |
164.5 |
150 |
22 |
Washington & Lee University |
164.5 |
100 |
23 |
George Washington University |
164 |
400 |
24 |
Boston College |
164 |
250 |
25 |
Cardozo Law School, Yeshiva University |
163.5 |
300 |
26 |
Boston University |
163.5 |
250 |
27 |
Emory University |
163 |
250 |
|
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities |
163 |
250 |
29 |
Brigham Young University |
163 |
150 |
30 |
University of California, Hastings |
162.5 |
350 |
31 |
Brooklyn Law School |
162.5 |
300 |
32 |
College of William & Mary |
162.5 |
200 |
|
University of Illinois |
162.5 |
200 |
34 |
University of Washington, Seattle |
162.5 |
150 |
|
Wake Forest University |
162.5 |
150 |
36 |
George Mason University |
162.5 |
100 |
37 |
University of San Diego |
162 |
250 |
38 |
University of California, Davis |
162 |
200 |
39 |
University of Connecticut |
162 |
150 |
40 |
Loyola Law School, Los Angeles |
161.5 |
350 |
Runners-Up for the Top 40 |
|
University of Colorado, Boulder |
161.5 |
150 |
|
Indiana University, Bloomington |
161 |
200 |
|
Lewis & Clark College/Northwestern School of
Law |
161 |
200 |
|
Rutgers University, Camden |
161 |
200 |
|
University of Alabama |
161 |
200 |
|
University of Richmond |
161 |
150 |
|
Tulane University |
160.5 |
350 |
|
American University |
160.5 |
300 |
|
St. John's University |
160.5 |
250 |
|
Temple University |
160.5 |
250 |
|
University of North Carolina |
160.5 |
250 |
|
University of Georgia |
160.5 |
200 |
Top Ten Student Bodies at Large Schools
(350 students or more)
Rank |
School |
75th/ Mid-Point LSAT |
1 |
Harvard University |
175/172 |
2 |
Columbia University |
173/170 |
3 |
New York University |
172/169.5 |
4 |
University of Virginia |
171/168.5 |
5 |
Georgetown University |
170/168 |
6 |
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor |
169/166.5 |
7 |
University of Texas, Austin |
167/164.5 |
8 |
George Washington University |
166/164 |
9 |
University of California, Hastings |
165/162.5 |
10 |
Loyola Law School/Los Angeles |
164/161.5 |
Top Ten Student Bodies at Small Schools
(200 students or less)
Rank |
School |
75th/Mid-Point LSAT |
1 |
Yale University |
175/171.5 |
2 |
Stanford University |
172/169 |
3 |
University of Chicago |
171/169 |
4 |
Northwestern
University |
170/168 |
5 |
Duke University |
169/165.5 |
6 |
Cornell University |
168/166 |
7 |
University of Southern California |
167/165 |
8 |
University of Notre Dame |
167164.5 |
9 |
Washington
& Lee University |
167/164.5 |
10 |
Vanderbilt University |
166/165 |
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